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Re: Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
I agree. Let's keep UEFI out of this discussion as UEFI support can't
be mandatory on all platforms. Moreover, UEFI runtime services are
implemented between same privilege levels. Thus, UEFI reset
I agree. Let's keep UEFI out of this discussion as UEFI support can't
be mandatory on all platforms. Moreover, UEFI runtime services are
implemented between same privilege levels. Thus, UEFI reset
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atishp@...
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#237
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Re: Agenda for 10 Sep 2020 Platform Spec meeting
[snip...]
Per the discussion this morning, the wiki has been updated with my
notes from today's meeting [0]. Please edit or comment if I missed
something or got something wrong, or if you just have
[snip...]
Per the discussion this morning, the wiki has been updated with my
notes from today's meeting [0]. Please edit or comment if I missed
something or got something wrong, or if you just have
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Al Stone
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#236
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Re: Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
I think there is a lot of confusion here because the discussion does not
separates the semantic and the syntax/implementation of the specifications.
Reusing the *semantic* defined elsewhere by
I think there is a lot of confusion here because the discussion does not
separates the semantic and the syntax/implementation of the specifications.
Reusing the *semantic* defined elsewhere by
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Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@...>
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#235
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Re: Agenda for 10 Sep 2020 Platform Spec meeting
What do people think about Google Meet? (We use that internally and with external parties.)
Greg
What do people think about Google Meet? (We use that internally and with external parties.)
Greg
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Greg Favor
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#234
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Re: Agenda for 10 Sep 2020 Platform Spec meeting
It's the mechanism we have at the moment.
Yes, understood. For good or ill, this is what the foundation makes
available up front so it was the tool at hand.
What would be preferred? I have no
It's the mechanism we have at the moment.
Yes, understood. For good or ill, this is what the foundation makes
available up front so it was the tool at hand.
What would be preferred? I have no
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Al Stone
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#233
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Re: Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
For me, the biggest factor is that the "Rich OS" platform should have only a single RESET interface for S-mode. I personally don't really care whether that means via SBI, an MMIO device, or any other
For me, the biggest factor is that the "Rich OS" platform should have only a single RESET interface for S-mode. I personally don't really care whether that means via SBI, an MMIO device, or any other
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Jonathan Behrens <behrensj@...>
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#232
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Re: Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
The RISC-V is a very different architecture compared to ARM/ARM64 architecture so we should not be blindly adopting specifications from ARM world without fully studying the technical complexity.
The RISC-V is a very different architecture compared to ARM/ARM64 architecture so we should not be blindly adopting specifications from ARM world without fully studying the technical complexity.
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Anup Patel
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#231
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Re: Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
The core issue here isn't a technical one, I think. All of the technical issues seem either trivial to solve or seem unimportant for this use case (although Anup clearly has a different
The core issue here isn't a technical one, I think. All of the technical issues seem either trivial to solve or seem unimportant for this use case (although Anup clearly has a different
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Paul Walmsley
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#230
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Re: Agenda for 10 Sep 2020 Platform Spec meeting
You have to be willing to join Zoom calls to then discuss if Zoom calls
are ok?
Numerous companies have banned employees using Zoom. Not to mention the
dishonest claims they have made and the poor
You have to be willing to join Zoom calls to then discuss if Zoom calls
are ok?
Numerous companies have banned employees using Zoom. Not to mention the
dishonest claims they have made and the poor
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Alistair Francis <alistair.francis@...>
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#229
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Re: Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
From: tech-unixplatformspec@... <tech-unixplatformspec@...>On Behalf Of Paul Walmsley
Sent: 10 September 2020 20:30
To: tech-unixplatformspec@...
Subject: [RISC-V] [tech-unixplatformspec] Proposal:
From: tech-unixplatformspec@... <tech-unixplatformspec@...>On Behalf Of Paul Walmsley
Sent: 10 September 2020 20:30
To: tech-unixplatformspec@...
Subject: [RISC-V] [tech-unixplatformspec] Proposal:
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Anup Patel
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#228
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Re: Standard system reset mechanism for RISC-V S-mode
My opinion on this hasn't changed for the past year or two: we should avoid reinventing the wheel:
https://lists.riscv.org/g/tech-unixplatformspec/message/226
My opinion on this hasn't changed for the past year or two: we should avoid reinventing the wheel:
https://lists.riscv.org/g/tech-unixplatformspec/message/226
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Paul Walmsley
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#227
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Proposal: Reusing existing system management specifications for system reboot, shutdown, and suspend
The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from.
- attributed to Andy Tanenbaum
Western Digital engineers have proposed that the RISC-V
The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose from.
- attributed to Andy Tanenbaum
Western Digital engineers have proposed that the RISC-V
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Paul Walmsley
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#226
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Re: Agenda for 10 Sep 2020 Platform Spec meeting
please make sure governance includes the topics found in slide 2 of the org chart slides
please make sure governance includes the topics found in slide 2 of the org chart slides
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mark
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#225
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Re: Two alternatives for architecture extension to specify address/page-based memory types
Hi Greg,
Option 1 looks better considering two-stage address translation. If top 2-3 bits in the PA are used for other purposes, the GPA also needs to behave in the same way, which means reduced
Hi Greg,
Option 1 looks better considering two-stage address translation. If top 2-3 bits in the PA are used for other purposes, the GPA also needs to behave in the same way, which means reduced
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Siqi Zhao
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#224
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Agenda for 10 Sep 2020 Platform Spec meeting
Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.
Please note, too, that I'm
Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.
Please note, too, that I'm
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Al Stone
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#223
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Re: Two alternatives for architecture extension to specify address/page-based memory types
Greg,
I would also be inclined towards option 1, based purely on orthogonality: without some extra considerations, the same page could be inadvertently (as in "all too easily by mistake") be used with
Greg,
I would also be inclined towards option 1, based purely on orthogonality: without some extra considerations, the same page could be inadvertently (as in "all too easily by mistake") be used with
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Philipp Tomsich
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#222
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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [RISC-V] [tech-virt-mem] [RISC-V] [tech-unixplatformspec] Two alternatives for architecture extension to specify address/page-based memory types
Regarding your virtualization question: Yes, this has been considered. Either option would have attribute overrides coming from both stages of address translation page tables - that would be combined
Regarding your virtualization question: Yes, this has been considered. Either option would have attribute overrides coming from both stages of address translation page tables - that would be combined
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Greg Favor
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#221
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Re: [EXTERNAL]Re: [RISC-V] [tech-virt-mem] [RISC-V] [tech-unixplatformspec] Two alternatives for architecture extension to specify address/page-based memory types
(I’m new to this email alias so I may be missing the context of past discussions. I apologize up front if I’m rehashing past discussions.)
My preference would be Option #1 since I’m familiar
(I’m new to this email alias so I may be missing the context of past discussions. I apologize up front if I’m rehashing past discussions.)
My preference would be Option #1 since I’m familiar
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Sanjay Patel <spatel@...>
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#220
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Re: [RISC-V] [tech-virt-mem] [RISC-V] [tech-unixplatformspec] Two alternatives for architecture extension to specify address/page-based memory types
I thought the major issue with #1 was how to keep PTE based attributes isynchronized with M-code on the same hart running in bare mode that has no PTE bits to look at and might access without
I thought the major issue with #1 was how to keep PTE based attributes isynchronized with M-code on the same hart running in bare mode that has no PTE bits to look at and might access without
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Allen Baum
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#219
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Re: Two alternatives for architecture extension to specify address/page-based memory types
Hi Greg,
I am inclined towards Option#1 provided the new PTE format is compatible with existing PTE format for Sv32/Sv39/Sv48.
Is the Option#1 documented somewhere ?
Regards,
Anup
Hi Greg,
I am inclined towards Option#1 provided the new PTE format is compatible with existing PTE format for Sv32/Sv39/Sv48.
Is the Option#1 documented somewhere ?
Regards,
Anup
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Anup Patel
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#218
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