Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.

Please note, too, that I'm starting up the wiki in [2], by adding
in a copy of this agenda. Please feel free to add notes to that
agenda, especially if I forget to capture something during the
meeting. I plan to make a lot of use of github...

And many thanks to Atish for all the help needed to get me this
far :).


Platform Spec Task Group Agenda: 10 Sep 2020
============================================
Meeting info: Zoom meeting [0], 15:00 UTC


Old Business
------------
1. Everyone okay with zoom?
2. Everyone okay with time and day?

Today's Topics
--------------
1. Rename the spec to Operating System Platform Spec
2. Scope of the working group:
-- Proposed charter [1]
-- MMU-platforms only?
-- Bare-metal and RTOS?
3. SBI PMU extension
4. SBI Reset extension

Open Floor
----------
1. Anything?

References
----------
[0] Zoom meeting link.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446?pwd=ZHFCR1JtKzg1WVpNZXNtci8xc1Mvdz09

If it doesn't work, please use the meeting link and the password.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446
Password: 901897

[1] https://github.com/ahs3/riscv-platform-specs/blob/housekeeping/osps-charter.md

[2] Meeting agendas and minutes:
https://github.com/riscv/riscv-platform-specs/wiki

--
ciao,
al
-----------------------------------
Al Stone
Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.
ahs3@...
-----------------------------------

--

On Wed, 2020-09-09 at 12:58 -0600, Al Stone wrote:

Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.

Please note, too, that I'm starting up the wiki in [2], by adding
in a copy of this agenda. Please feel free to add notes to that
agenda, especially if I forget to capture something during the
meeting. I plan to make a lot of use of github...

And many thanks to Atish for all the help needed to get me this
far :).


Platform Spec Task Group Agenda: 10 Sep 2020
============================================
Meeting info: Zoom meeting [0], 15:00 UTC


Old Business
------------
1. Everyone okay with zoom?
2. Everyone okay with time and day?

Today's Topics
--------------
1. Rename the spec to Operating System Platform Spec
2. Scope of the working group:
-- Proposed charter [1]
-- MMU-platforms only?
-- Bare-metal and RTOS?
3. SBI PMU extension
4. SBI Reset extension

Open Floor
----------
1. Anything?

References
----------
[0] Zoom meeting link.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446?pwd=ZHFCR1JtKzg1WVpNZXNtci8xc1Mvdz09

If it doesn't work, please use the meeting link and the password.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446
Password: 901897

You have to be willing to join Zoom calls to then discuss if Zoom calls
are ok?

Numerous companies have banned employees using Zoom. Not to mention the
dishonest claims they have made and the poor privacy controls. On top
of all that you have to install an app just to use it.

Using Zoom locks a lot of people out of discussions.

Alistair

[1]
https://github.com/ahs3/riscv-platform-specs/blob/housekeeping/osps-charter.md

[2] Meeting agendas and minutes:
https://github.com/riscv/riscv-platform-specs/wiki

On 10 Sep 2020 15:44, Alistair Francis wrote:

On Wed, 2020-09-09 at 12:58 -0600, Al Stone wrote:

Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.

Please note, too, that I'm starting up the wiki in [2], by adding
in a copy of this agenda. Please feel free to add notes to that
agenda, especially if I forget to capture something during the
meeting. I plan to make a lot of use of github...

And many thanks to Atish for all the help needed to get me this
far :).


Platform Spec Task Group Agenda: 10 Sep 2020
============================================
Meeting info: Zoom meeting [0], 15:00 UTC


Old Business
------------
1. Everyone okay with zoom?
2. Everyone okay with time and day?

Today's Topics
--------------
1. Rename the spec to Operating System Platform Spec
2. Scope of the working group:
-- Proposed charter [1]
-- MMU-platforms only?
-- Bare-metal and RTOS?
3. SBI PMU extension
4. SBI Reset extension

Open Floor
----------
1. Anything?

References
----------
[0] Zoom meeting link.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446?pwd=ZHFCR1JtKzg1WVpNZXNtci8xc1Mvdz09

If it doesn't work, please use the meeting link and the password.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446
Password: 901897

You have to be willing to join Zoom calls to then discuss if Zoom calls
are ok?

It's the mechanism we have at the moment.

Numerous companies have banned employees using Zoom. Not to mention the
dishonest claims they have made and the poor privacy controls. On top
of all that you have to install an app just to use it.

Yes, understood. For good or ill, this is what the foundation makes
available up front so it was the tool at hand.

Using Zoom locks a lot of people out of discussions.

What would be preferred? I have no incentive to stay with Zoom. On
any given day, I personally end up using one of maybe half a dozen
different solutions to be able to get work done. Those that were
able to attend expressed no strong preference.

My company does have a BlueJeans account and I would gladly set that
up for our use, if that would work better.

And I'm always open to suggestions.

Alistair

[1]
https://github.com/ahs3/riscv-platform-specs/blob/housekeeping/osps-charter.md

[2] Meeting agendas and minutes:
https://github.com/riscv/riscv-platform-specs/wiki

--
ciao,
al
-----------------------------------
Al Stone
Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.
ahs3@...
-----------------------------------

On 09 Sep 2020 12:58, Al Stone wrote:

Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.

Please note, too, that I'm starting up the wiki in [2], by adding
in a copy of this agenda. Please feel free to add notes to that
agenda, especially if I forget to capture something during the
meeting. I plan to make a lot of use of github...

And many thanks to Atish for all the help needed to get me this
far :).


Platform Spec Task Group Agenda: 10 Sep 2020
============================================
Meeting info: Zoom meeting [0], 15:00 UTC

[snip...]

Per the discussion this morning, the wiki has been updated with my
notes from today's meeting [0]. Please edit or comment if I missed
something or got something wrong, or if you just have additional
notes.

I have also added the draft charter and a TODO list to the wiki, as
we discussed. The only other action I recall is that I need to send
out a MR for the work I've started in writing portions of the spec
-- it's mostly just an outline still -- so that we can start looking
at something a bit more concrete.

I did make one mistake: I had intended to record the discussion and
attach it to the wiki but forgot to push the "record" button. My
apologies.

The next meeting is scheduled for 24 Sep 2020. A tentative agenda
is also on the wiki [1]; again, please feel free to add to it.


[0] https://github.com/riscv/riscv-platform-specs/wiki/Working-Group-Meeting:-10-Sep-2020
[1] https://github.com/riscv/riscv-platform-specs/wiki/Working-Group-Meeting:-24-Sep-2020

--
ciao,
al
-----------------------------------
Al Stone
Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc.
ahs3@...
-----------------------------------

On Thu, 2020-09-10 at 16:38 -0600, Al Stone wrote:

On 10 Sep 2020 15:44, Alistair Francis wrote:

On Wed, 2020-09-09 at 12:58 -0600, Al Stone wrote:

Here's the proposed agenda for the upcoming meeting of the
Platform
Spec Working Group. If there's something you'd like to add, just
let me know now or during the meeting.

Please note, too, that I'm starting up the wiki in [2], by adding
in a copy of this agenda. Please feel free to add notes to that
agenda, especially if I forget to capture something during the
meeting. I plan to make a lot of use of github...

And many thanks to Atish for all the help needed to get me this
far :).


Platform Spec Task Group Agenda: 10 Sep 2020
============================================
Meeting info: Zoom meeting [0], 15:00 UTC


Old Business
------------
1. Everyone okay with zoom?
2. Everyone okay with time and day?

Today's Topics
--------------
1. Rename the spec to Operating System Platform Spec
2. Scope of the working group:
-- Proposed charter [1]
-- MMU-platforms only?
-- Bare-metal and RTOS?
3. SBI PMU extension
4. SBI Reset extension

Open Floor
----------
1. Anything?

References
----------
[0] Zoom meeting link.

https://zoom.us/j/2786028446?pwd=ZHFCR1JtKzg1WVpNZXNtci8xc1Mvdz09

If it doesn't work, please use the meeting link and the
password.
https://zoom.us/j/2786028446
Password: 901897

You have to be willing to join Zoom calls to then discuss if Zoom
calls
are ok?

It's the mechanism we have at the moment.

Numerous companies have banned employees using Zoom. Not to mention
the
dishonest claims they have made and the poor privacy controls. On
top
of all that you have to install an app just to use it.

Yes, understood. For good or ill, this is what the foundation makes
available up front so it was the tool at hand.

I understand. I just wanted to point out that it's something to keep in
mind.

I don't regulary attend these meetings, so I don't want to complain too
much. I just wanted to point out that others are locked out from
joining with Zoom. Either because of their company or because they
personally don't feel comfortable.

Using Zoom locks a lot of people out of discussions.

What would be preferred? I have no incentive to stay with Zoom. On
any given day, I personally end up using one of maybe half a dozen
different solutions to be able to get work done. Those that were
able to attend expressed no strong preference.

My company does have a BlueJeans account and I would gladly set that
up for our use, if that would work better.

To me that sounds much better!

If that isn't an option I'm sure we could set up a WebEx instead.

Really anything else that works with a standard web browser (not just
one by an ad company) is fine.

Alistair

And I'm always open to suggestions.

Alistair

[1]
https://github.com/ahs3/riscv-platform-specs/blob/housekeeping/osps-charter.md

[2] Meeting agendas and minutes:
https://github.com/riscv/riscv-platform-specs/wiki